That is what the pellet hits. That way you could have the paddle on my target 5′ in diameter if you wanted. And of course there are other options like Chris mentioned. On the left is a/the 3″ drywall screw and on the right is a flip up/down spring loaded lever. I’m going to try something here today to see if it works. Ours only got 550 FPS on rare occasions. Your sketches are fine. I do like the new UTG 3-12×44 SWAT scope. A 1/8″ maybe? Also, the gun wont give you any warning. Good little shooter. A pure guess, but that is the first place I would look. Flying a RC planes though I get the left and right and up and down mixed up all the time. Don Reviewed in the United States on June 11, 2013. And I just posted two drawings of what mine would look like when I make mine. The sparrows won’t stand a chance this year! I even have a separate pair of glasses to work on my computer which is in between my regular lens. Lastworld New Air Pellet Rifle Gun B3 5.5mm 22 Caliber Real Wood. Thanks, I saved a copy of your spreadsheet screen shot to my Wildfire folder. That got old real quick. Thank you again! Crossbows are interesting (anything that accurate is very interesting) but the limitations are significant. Nope. So,.. there is already stuff out there like it. That was at the same time that I got the Benjamin 392 that I tested for you already. I just replied above also. My goal was to keep the weight as low a possible to avoid top heaviness. I wrote my question below before you hit post with your explanation. But here’s something for you about size and distance to target with my design. Again no change. I new I should of saved the link someone posted the other day. Both guns have sling mounts, That seems different. Yes, I have a Hawke 3-9×50 HD Sport on the RWS34P. Never thought about it or searched it. Anyway, maybe you could trace more of the B3 history through the Chinese airgun industry. Where you taking account for that when you was moving things around when you was working on the tube and valve? I definitely shuffle scopes around if I need to, under normal circumstances, and can understand why you might recommend that, though. The older guns had fewer safety features and were known to slip off their sears while they were being loaded. I don’t know. The amount of rust was shocking. Now I can try different pellets and fill pressures if I want to but the gun is supposed to be a good plinker and I really don’t need it to be any more accurate if the accuracy holds. So I took off the scope stop, and the scope promptly walked off the gun (luckily, I caught it before it his the ground!). I have used plumbing washers and short sections of 3/8″ rubber hose to make breech seals, but they don’t last very long. may want to review the link for some rather non-family friendly verbiage and maybe take it down. It made not difference in my gun because its accuracy was so bad small improvements did nothing. Hiya, fellow DIYers and airgun enthusiasts! Yes I changed barrels. Here is a picture of the last target. Drawing that is. Just guessing. That did not make any difference. The metal appears not to have been polished and bears some grinder marks on the outside of the spring tube. Don On the other hand, I will be making comparisons, so I still don’t know. I’ll have to see when he explains. per page. As you can tell in the included pic, I have all sorts of room left with this particular setup. I once had a revolver that shot kind of like this and the cylinder did not always index at the same point. installed that when he reviewed my 34. https://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Umarex_9mm_Blanks_For_Revolvers_50ct/671, https://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Walther_9mm_Blanks_For_Full_Semi_Auto_Pistols_50ct/672, If you’ve never seen The Wire, here’s a great scene involving a murderous gang member shopping for a nail gun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N_UuImPL4E. Chris–I tried several kinds of forceps (tweezers). Quick Shop. While the B3-1 shot close to its rated FPS, the B9 did not. Don He was competing with an orangutan, and he won because the orangutan touched the bar with his foot and disqualified himself. Particularly choice of targets, and the need to recycle projectiles. says, that one will be in my estate sale. I made it easy. Then I just put 3-4 drops of silicone oil in the barrel and shoot. If they are different it is in the manufacture not the overall barrel dimensions. There are other front covers available. The strap is .6″ and the mount is .6″. I have 1 mag that came with the gun, and 2 mags that I bought from PA and I don’t recall any problems other than not being able to fit JSB Beasts into them. I took the Wildfire apart and checked the original barrel it was rough when seating a pellet and was also very hard to push the pellet past the crown. Then I started working at a machine shop after I graduated high school. I have never heard of a pellet loader for the B3, but one of our readers might like to work with you on your idea. Well I’m going to go pop some balloons with my air guns. Plus, the spent cartridge is going nowhere at all. If you haven’t already tried it, use the mag and clip from your 1077 in different combinations to see if that gives better results. Well I hope you don’t have to put your WildFire under the knife again. Tony was with BSA many years ago, and I think he is directing their new emergence. Does the crossbow maker we saw yesterday manufacture using additive parts making technologies? Just a thought. I might tear into this one and tune it, just for the fun of it. . It should still be interesting to see how it does though. The scope’s eye relief is specified to be 3.0-3.4″. $50.00-+ Add to Cart. Guess I’ve still got it , Halfstep I found one like that at a pawn shop with no scope grooves and was surprised to find it had a metal spring guide. I don’t think it was polished before bluing, either. $45.33-+ Add to Cart. But anything that can grab the sun and reflect if your pesting will alert the pest. BB i have several under lever air rifles like the B3 an B3-1 that u mention i also have several other brands of under lever an all seem to be made the same way , my question is do u know of a pellet loader made for them so your finger is not traped in the bear claw if the lear lets loose when loading a pellet in, or do u know of someone that would be willing to work with me on an idea of a simple one i have a design for . Ok you got to guess or I’m not posting your picture. Defender Air Rifle 22 Caliber Safety Lock 5.5 All Black 470-570 FPS . Well the other things too. If it turns out that you only need a small amount of additional adjustment, do you have the ability to cut and file a new profile to the front of the rear mount that would let the turret slide further back?You may only have 1 set of cap screws on that over band but it should hold the scope OK. Have you fired the gun indoors yet and if so, what is your impression of the noise level? To me it looks like there is light or should I say space inbetween the front objective bell and the barrel and breech. I think it was in a review or on a site selling the guns. Ok,.. you have your idea, and I have mine. This should be more than enough to give the eye relief I need. Bill. I don’t know if you read my reply to Halfstep but the BKL 30mm offset ring is 2″ long and the strap and mount are each .6″ long. I would for sure goes with the black to to keep the gun stealthy. https://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/BKL_3_8_or_11mm_Tri_Mount_Dovetail_Riser_Mount_4_Long_Black/2877, https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/voltaire_109643, https://www.nasa.gov/pdf/293172main_56559main_allman_east_west_0301.pdf, https://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/BKL_30mm_Rings_3_8_or_11mm_Dovetail_Offset_Black/2915, http://reflextargets.co.uk/shop/4587957332/grenade-.22-9mm-blank-target/10993454, https://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Umarex_9mm_Blanks_For_Revolvers_50ct/671, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N_UuImPL4E, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCM3k_pZAbE&t=913s, The AV-46M Single Stroke Pneumatic Match Air Pistol: Part 3, Benjamin Marauder Semi-Auto (SAM) PCP Air Rifle: Part 2, Umarex ReadyAir portable compressor: Part 1, The AV-46M Single Stroke Pneumatic Match Air Pistol: Part 2. This useful kit contains a selection of spare parts for the Industry Brand B3-1. Any suggestions as to what I should do? So if hunting you better have the scope set up glasses if you are wearing them while hunting. Next I tried to polish the barrel crown in the gun. Very nice. I can link you to a site that will show you how to get a better shot count with an easy, cheap mod, if you are interested. That drives the pin forward into the cartridge. I replaced it with a new clip and cylinder. I looked up those rings and it shows an offset of 0.6 inches. Had they been I doubt that company could have survived. One could almost wish that they had converted the rear sight into a peep sight like Diana used to do. Maybe you might want to start making and selling my targets. If you do more accuracy testing I would like to see the results. Maybe you should put a link to the old report in the new report? That may be enough to do it. I just shoot them. Written by Stephen Archer and published by Archer Airguns, it contains 88 pages of data, information, hints and experience on your favorite range of air rifles. Matt61—–Get a copy of –” the book of the crossbow by Payne-Gallway. Around 650+ fps? I wear glasses only for reading. I see the same behavior with my B3 leather seal. I was just quoting what you said about yourself in past subjects. Any ideas, known things to look for? A bit to over thought I’m afraid. I shot 5 more into that 1/2″ dot then changed to a fresh target and shot a 10 shot group. For the time being you can remove the rear mount and slide the scope back to get an accurate impression of where the eye relief is best for you. B.B. 5 feet to the left and low. I do not shoot it , now that I have better air rifles. . It was a much better value at that price than a B3 would have been. But you notice that when I asked Geo how much more he needed to move the scope back he never answered. I had started doubting my shooting abilities after struggling with my rws34p for so long. That shouldn’t hurt as long as the crown isn’t damaged. Yep when I order something I want it yesterday. The 3/16″ bolt I used appears to be just right. They are spring loaded so when you open them they pop up and stay. I eventually got the idea of the target into my thick skull. Like B.B. You make yourself understood and that’s the main thing. . I know that you will say that you will be holding on to the forceps, but it will be a light grip to avoid crushing or damaging the pellet. They use a kind of a funnel shaped breech seal, which destroys itself quickly. You know that always gets me when I hear that. I am not satisfied with the current configuration. With plastic parts you only get so many chances before the are ruined. It’s not my trick, I got it from the ether that makes us all look smarter, but it works and is simple. Ok, I just spent the morning on the Wildfire. Page down. You, (of all people) need some of those wind indicators like Vana2 showed us all how to make with his guest blog awhile back. Thanks. Don’t know if this is the case with many of the 1077 and Wildfire barrels but sure made a difference on my Wildfire. What a coincidence! Yup. Your rifle may be missing some parts. And I forgot about the verbiage in that clip. Other than that, it works as intended, is safe and easy to use. Are these an orphan, difficult to service or get serviced? Halfstep One other design factor was the (weight) of the pin assy.. Obviously something heavy would absorb all of the energy and not move. Because of my strong glasses prescription, it’s more like 2″ for me. And I’m sure Chris could chime in on this. Take my design and add a paddle that’s hinged like on the back of a feild target that gets knocked down. I think the pellet hitting my target makes as much noise as the Urban and I do think it’s quieter than my RWS34. Looking at the sharpener, nothing seems to come apart. Nice feel, heavy wood stock, trigger guard and trigger, stamped steel, OK, but a bit on the cheapo side. I have one of the early B3’s. Been reading for quite awhile though. Of course the economies of scale of a larger world population and, cough, cough, untethered trade will prevent retail prices from increasing at the overall rate of inflation. But at a hundred it is more true to what I get at 50 yards. My other option would be to return the scope and rings and purchase the standard length with possibly the 1″ tube and UTG high rings. The front and rear sights were out of alignment, so I removed them and I use a cheap red dot sight to replace them . Looks like a real winner . Watch out sparrows, there a new sheriff in town . And do the lead in on the breech end too if you can. This useful kit contains a selection of spare parts for the Industry Brand B3-1. It was from Europe some where. I shot 12 shots with open sights just to get the gun to settle in. “Stretch out it’s legs”,.. I have tried many different cylinders so that is not the issue. What do you guys think? Remember the nail cartridge or blank is only a bit bigger diameter than .22 caliber. Copyright © 1999-21 PyramydAir.com. Do the older B3’s have leather piston seals? , I added some notations to your pic to explain its operation. If not much you could remove that green butt spacer from the stock. It looks like a one peice mount will go right over the magazine. Quit talkin’ and get to inventing some stuff! I saw a trained gymnast hold for six minutes before he dropped off. Besides, like you said, that other one you noted used blanks. Does the crossbow from yesterday have some sort of pulley mechanism where you can rest at a certain point on the draw? THE PARTS MAY FIT OTHER B3 AIR RIFLES, BUT - DUE TO THE LARGE VARIETY OF MODELS - THIS IS NOT GUARANTEED. My B3-1 that I bought new years ago still has a deep blue on the metal and no visible rust. The screw,.. has 3 fender washers mounted on the head of the screw. Chris Question. 4 inches), has no trigger safety, and a short stock end made for a very small person with short arms. Meant for informational purposes only. Based on the firing characteristics of my gun I think any mount would be strong enough, barring extreme carelessness when handling the gun. Put a pellet inside the breech end of the barrel. I got me a dumb phone. Maybe?,… if you are not too busy?,…. Geo. I couldn’t believe it! It is a classic and should be read by anyone who is interested in crossbows. I used my shooting table down in the basement. I presume some of those are superior in some ways to the vintage B-3 when it was new. You can remove the cap/cap tube. I prefer to think of it as (over built) and (safe). But look at what I showed with my target. Thanks. Geo and all The more parts the less secure the scope will be. The test rifle has been abused by leaving it lying around. I’ve picked up two of them so far, and the machine work, as well as the quality of the steel, is excellent. Halfstep It’s a pretty large scope and has the AO at the front. Supposed to say keep your eye centered in the scope. And, maybe I am not doing something quite right as I cycle the bolt? And on the over thinking. The shot goes off. Bill, I think you got a good deal on that; cool! Seems the automatic safety was keeping the sear from latching fully. You have my other ides in my other post on the other blog. There wasn’t room above to reply to your question. It did though have a anti-bear trap safety like most newer ones that slides under the trigger. Sorry for any confusion it is a Remington model 34 22lr Maybe not as long as humans because they have a high metabolism? Bill, Bill I was shooting my WildFire and remembered something. Don Is the point to shoot the device into pieces? A wood loader will be crushed by the compression chamber, but it is probably not going to fly out of the gun. Mucho thanks!!! Spyderco has their name-brand knives made in Seki City in Japan. Which can be done with alot of things if you think about it. Know what I mean? was of far better quality than that junk gun I got from them in the 80s. If I understand you correctly you are having trouble adjusting far enough rearward. I believe were the words at the time. It states that the overall length of the offset ring is 2″. Intended to only buy one, but after inspecting them, saw that this was an exceptional bargain; thus, 'my wife' got one, too. I can get it to cock if I lift the big sear at the end of the stroke, and the trigger works normal then. They don’t appear to be as rugged but maybe a little lighter, and I don’t think the Urban really needs heavy duty rings. Either way, Ol’ Thunder is just trying to not lose any digits in the process of trying to load his air rifle. 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